Is it illegal to wire a rangehood into an existing oven socket!
Im guessing yes.
Thanks
m99,
Dec 4, 9:28pm
Dealt with this one at work recently after having to look at work done on rental property??
elect70,
Dec 5, 3:04pm
35 A breaker on 1 mmcablelegal !
ryanm2,
Dec 5, 3:12pm
Yeah - ive heard of strange things like this before. However - who is to determine in the future if that range hood feed was to be used to feed something else. Its awful practice and im sure some inspectors would not sign it off, or if an insurance company has an inspection done it would be picked up and rewire be required.
kwaka5,
Dec 5, 3:18pm
You can thank mr sickles for that fine peice of work :)
russ18,
Dec 5, 4:37pm
Yep, provided there is short circuit protection and the load isn't otherwise capable of drawing current in excess of the cable rating then over-current protection probably isn't required. Wouldn't be my first choice.
taipan4,
Dec 5, 4:48pm
ummmmmmmmmm! bad practice , and the latest bitoflego starts next july , sparky fronts up to change a batten holder for a house holder, thanks lady that will be $$for batten holderoh & another $20.00 for the coc tis true, like for like coc must be issued, time to buy a lawn mower & a trailer & do cashys 42 yrs in the trade & it's come to this, yet a "competent" house holder can change a plug, light socket etc with no coc this country is f****D
t_naki,
Dec 6, 4:35am
I agree also, as long as short circuit protection will operate and the load is hard wired then it is ok to down size the cable. If someone else adds onto it later then that is up to them and not a reflection on the original sparky. I also think that its rough as guts and would only do it as an absolute last resort if you could not get it in any other way.
maggie65,
Dec 6, 10:26am
Not sure where you are getting the $20 for a COC.You can make your own and print them out on paper yourself.Then all you have to do is fill it out and hand it over.Sure there are some costs involved here but they could be passed on to the customer.As it will be the same law for everyone, that same customer will be getting charged no matter which electrician she uses.
I would suggest that after 42 years in the trade you should probably give it up, you are one of "those" electricians who fears change and always goes on about the "good old days".
captaingraham,
Dec 6, 12:18pm
Nothing wrong with the good old days. At least we could go out and do a days work without referring to the RULES every 10 minutes and having a lawyer on speed dial on the phone.
kwaka5,
Dec 6, 1:18pm
Bring back the good old days i say. Go back to permits and inspectors any day. There should be proper restraints put on certain trades and this is easily one of them.
t_naki,
Dec 6, 5:26pm
I heard that the new reprint of the regs is going to go back to a ring binder so that when they do their annual updates they only need to reprint the affected pages.
taipan4,
Dec 7, 8:28pm
uumm not quite sure where I mentioned the good old days, & most of us old sparkys have survived because we did things correctly, (I wonder are you a sparky If so how long have you been one) Change if it makes things run better, more efficiently, howeverI suspect it's just anotherway to print money for the bearcats in Wellington. Since the industry was deregulated we are finding ourselves burdened with more paperwork and keeping up with the changes in itself is a nightmare, we now need a degree in Philadeldelpia lawyering & a secretary to keep it all. At this rate anyway I will welcome getting out & getting away from this b/s which is happening in every trade in what used to be godzone, I think god if he ever was has long since f****d of . probably to China where RMA is unheard of & bamboo scaffolding is the norm.LOL rant over
taipan4,
Dec 7, 8:34pm
Householders are allowed to change fittings like for like, & no COC is issueable and what spark in his right mind is going to issue one for a house that is being sold, when in years of ceiling work I have seen trurip used to wire downlights , & tps held up with 3 inch nails.
woodhouse_elect,
Dec 7, 8:44pm
Held up with - how about clouts thru the 1mm in the garage lights - nice and tidy
210sback,
Dec 8, 12:33pm
righto so you reckon even one metre of 1mm is good for 25 or 32 amps!dont think so.stick to the bullriding cowboy.do not wire it in 1mm.
muzzaandmich,
Dec 8, 2:36pm
wait for it.pull the switch.Bang ! Get a reg sparky don't. f. aboutwith electricity
russ18,
Dec 8, 3:07pm
How is a rangehood going to draw 25 or 32 amps!
elect70,
Dec 8, 3:09pm
PP swired viabehind skirting board, found alive nails! .,pp wired in telephone wire under wallpaper& no earth ,, ppburied direct into ground ,just a fewhomeownersDIY .BTW an inspector says houses are over wired , says should wire pp s in 1mmT&Eon 10 A breaker asall houses today have a form offixed heating.No wonder i miss out on so many jobslol .
shaun16,
Dec 8, 3:12pm
so you can legally replace power points and lights etc yourself. i never new that was actualy allowed
tmenz,
Dec 8, 3:25pm
Changing the subjest slightly - a question for the registered electricians amongst you:- I have a 1963 house which originally had a 30 gallon hot water tank with a 1500W element on a circuit with 10 Amp fuse and iso switch on the switchboard. (As well as iso switch in cupboard). Some years ago this was replaced by a 135 litre tank with a 2000 W element (and a new switch/tail assembly inside the cupboard). I have recently found that the cable from switchboard to cupboard is only single core - may be 1/.036 or even 1/.029. This seems to be rather light to me - should I be looking to replace it ASAP with some 2.5mm!
davea74,
Dec 8, 3:54pm
is it still on the 10A fuse!
210sback,
Dec 8, 5:52pm
its not but its about protecting the installation and 1 mm can't take 32 amps,a range hood could draw that kind of current for a peroid of time if a fault occurred and then the weak link of the installation wouldn't be the circuit breaker but the 1mm cable.
kamitchell,
Dec 8, 6:37pm
Mate of mine got up in a ceiling some years ago saw all the 300 ohm flat ribbon cable and thought "mmmm they have a lot of TV outlets". Guess what, previous home owner did all the GPO's himself.
t_naki,
Dec 8, 6:45pm
How is it different from hard wiring an appliance with0.75mm flex attached!
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