Lol. As a pre apprentice in 1986 I was getting $2.50/hr. Then as apprentice $154 in the hand for 44 hours.
bluecat1529,
Jul 8, 8:05pm
Luxury! I started my apprenticeship on 97 cents an hour plus a 10c allowance for having School C
stevo2,
Jul 8, 8:33pm
Wow, you were big time tycoon. I started on 70c/hr for the first six months of my apprenticeship doing 44 hrs and taking home $28 in the hand. Had School C so got 6 months off my apprenticeship term. Got through in under 4 years.
finelawns,
Jul 8, 8:34pm
I’m surprised at the amount of people whom only focus on a price as their decision making criteria of a quote. We just had a months work done but the decision making criteria was whom undertook any work. We only had long serving trades people, all Undertook exceptional work well except the electrician. The job was done to the highest standards. I ended up asking the young electrician to leave after two hours as he was cutting random holes in new walls when asked why he was doing the job as he was he said he wasn’t thinking. I’d never allow or accept a quote that wasn’t done to the highest standards. I suppose a quote needs to set out expectations how much work we’ll be undertaken by the apprentice.
nzshooter01,
Jul 8, 8:55pm
You 2 were spoilt, 1972 first year, 40 cents per hr, $20.00 per week
stevo2,
Jul 8, 9:29pm
But I've got ahead. My rate has nearly doubled since then.
Number 1 grandson was on that rate as a first year - but he was a self employed apprentice. Some good posts above, but as with the sawmill post, much depends on the job being done.
Same applies in any industry. Sometimes it can be 25% quicker having an assistant, but it may also be 25% more expensive. Not everything on a job requires a tradies expertise and experience, so often, an apprentice is more than capable.
Given the choice between a good hardworking first year apprentice at $25 an hour, or an unreliable inefficient 3rd year at $20 an hour, I know which I'd go for. Pay peanuts, get monkeys.
socram,
Jul 10, 10:11am
So were you. 45 hour week for $9. (1962!)
kwaka5,
Jul 10, 12:20pm
How do you have a self employed apprentice?
stevo2,
Jul 10, 5:37pm
Apprentices can be independent contractors if they desire. We have a second year one (40 years old) who is self employed and GST registered.
ianab,
Jul 10, 6:27pm
That's what some people are missing. An "apprentice" can be a 17 year old fresh out of school, and probably be a liability on the job until they learn a bit more.
Or it could be an older person, with work or even building experience, that can actually do the job with minimal training and supervision. They are an "apprentice" because they are working towards getting formally qualified, which means recording hours of supervised work and doing some tech courses. Basically the same as the 17 year old, but they already know 95% of it. They just have to complete the paperwork requirements.
That sort of person is worth the $$.
socram,
Jul 10, 7:57pm
Whether they are 18 or 28, it is a sensible option. They are apprenticed TO a tradesman and the ITO carries out the checks and assessments as required.
The advantage for the apprentice is that the tradie has to withhold the 20% tax, so the younger apprentice particularly, tends to not get behind with the annual tax returns - and usually manages a rebate.
The other advantage is that if they buy a ute for work, but are smart enough to buy a cheap banger for socialising, they can claim 100% of the ute running costs including depreciation, plus tools, mobile phone and so on.
The disadvantage is of course that they get no sick pay, holiday pay or health insurance, but a young guy with a bit of go in him, prepared to work the hours and maybe do a few small homers at the weekend, putting them through the books of course, can make and save good money, so that saving for a home of their own isn't as impossible as some would have you believe.
Pity more don't do it as we need trained builders.
calz14,
Oct 21, 11:10am
What about 1st year apprentices on more than $25 an hour and there boss/builder paying there bcito course fees.
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