Southern Rose People, please

What an interesting tread to reread.
Makes me all enthused to go out and buy some more roses. Tasman Bay Nurseries are on my backdoor step.
I wonder how OPs garden is now with all that wonderful advice.

Lavendar Lassie is a pretty bush rose

Do put in a Graham Thomas (lovely long -flowering yellow David Austin)
the yellow really sets off the purply + pink tones-

Rocky, another purply dark crimson rose that i have discovered last year . it has a perfume & even though it's a new(ish) release, has a semi old fashioned form is 'Caroline Bay'.
I bit the bullet & hauled out (after a couple years) an inherited formal rose garden . buxus hedged, you get the picture, which was a bloody awful visual non symphony, ha ha ha & have planted it out with (shock horror) white carpets around the considerable perimeter, Caroline Bay & a new release called 'Illuminis'(sparkly white), a huge original Iceberg in the middle & a few Lavender Pinnochios, plus a couple of 'Julia's' rose . & I'm really pleased with the colour combination.

I'd endorse Tasman Bay . they are great.

There is a rose nursery in Edendale just South of the dairy factory since the roses seem to thrive down there I cant see why they won't do well where you live

Thankyou for looking at my thread.
I am trying to plan a scented rose dominated garden at the front of our cottage style farmhouse, I am planning on a purpley, pink theme, with the roses and mixing delphiniums, hollyhocks, foxgloves, lavender etc. I've sort of got a idea of what I want but am newish to roses and am having trouble invisioning it, my head hurts lol.
I have sort of got some 'favourite' roses in mind, although I havent 'seen' them in person, (this has taken some narrowing down!)

We live in Otago and the weather is VERY similar to the Central Otago climate, so I am just wanting to check these roses will thrive or not.
I have some small rugosa seedlings to form some sort of a hedge too, I hope.

Any info on the any of the mentioned roses/theme, good or bad will be so much appreciated.
Some of the I have doubled up, still undecided between the two.

Blackberry Nip climbing and maybe 2 standards, or similar
Falstaff or Gertrude Jeckyll
Royal Amethyst
Waimarie
Dignity or Dioressence
Souvenir de st. Annes

Hopefully some of these will be suitable.
Look forward to some responses, thankyou!

Ask at your local garden centres! Note you have one handy at Waitati.
Join a Rose society/garden clubs, many round Otago with experienced growers in your climate. Even take a walk locally and look at other gardens. Most keen gardeners are happy to give advice, offer tips.
Have fun!

You are always best to seek local advice as kernal1 has indicated and even going along to your local rose society meeting (even if you don't want to commit at this stage) will reap dividends, I'm sure. Just a couple of observations from the list above - I don't know Dignity but your second option of Dioressence has plusses and minuses - it is a stunningly beautiful rose with a scent to die for but my experience of it is that it gradually weakens, every year. It doesn't stop me growing it - you just have to be prepared to replace it every few years. Souvenir de St Annes is another lovely rose - beautifully pointed in bud but relatively short lived as a picker and not particularly fragrant. It's a good doer though and is still putting up new buds this late in the season.Dainty Bess is another lovely single pink. Royal Amethyst is a nice rose too - lovely soft green foliage to complement the orchidy pink flowers. I'm not aware that Blackberry Nip comes in a climbing form but there are other alternatives. A lot of the roses you favour are Hybrid Teas (but not all) and the sort of effect you appear to be looking for might gel nicely with Austin roses. (English Roses) One you might like to consider (bush-reasonably tall) is Brother Cadfael. It starts life in bud form looking for all the world like Queen Elizabeth but as it matures it gets more and more,and more petals and ends up looking more like a paeony than a rose with a scent that will make you want to grow it forever. Absolutely delicious! Of course, there are many Austins, and others, that fall into the "have to have" category - things like Redoute, Sharifa Asma, and Constance Spry (climber) to name a few. Purple or mauve roses are many and varied - like Veilchenblau or Anais Segales that will give you the old fashioned look or newer ones like Ebb Tide (lovely scent) Purplicious or Angel Face (floribunda) with its lovely crinkly edged petals. A good rose to have in this type of garden is one called Raubritter - Grown with Chianti - it's a stunning combination. Raubritter has small, very cupped flowers which add another form to the mix. You might like to look at a website I find very useful (although the Brother Cadfael is an awful pic!) www.justourpictures.com and click on the colour roses you want. It doesn't cover them all, of course, but might give you some ideas. Good luck with the project.

Gertrude Jeckyll is lovely . I also grow Mary Rose . and Veilchenblau. I know you want scented but the burgundy iceberg standard is a lovely shade :)

I love the colours you have described & I bought a couple of new releases last season & one which would suit your colour scheme (imo) is called Caroline Bay. Its a dark crimson colour with blue undertones & perfumed. I've got it in a formal rose garden with 3 Mutabilis, 2 Lavender Pinnochio, 2 Julia's Rose . all sort of 'mucky' colours (but beautiful) & lots of white roses & the colours work really well. I can't find any image that does the colour justice but I am very pleased with Caroline Bay.

Rhapsody in Blue is a beaut shade . very striking though a tad bright in this pic

http://www.nicholsgroup.co.nz/home/rose-list-for-2014/shades-of-pink-purple/

Wow, thankyou all for your replies! There are so many lovely roses, I think it will be had not to get addicted to them, just as well I've got plenty of room in gardens and walls ;)
Rhapsody in Blue is lovely, it's now added to my list, thankyou jbsouthland. I've looked at the burgundy iceberg standard, would it be suitable to put under my 2 guest bedroom windows, they are very low cottage type sill's or do you think it would be ' too much'?
Samanya, I just love mutabilis too, does it handle the frost's well?
Piquant,- Raubritter - Grown with Chianti. Raubritter is divine, lovely, is it a good healthy bush too? Love it!
Thankyou all for taking the time to write you reccommendations, it is very helpfull, I will get help from the nursery but would like to half pie know what I want, otherwise I could walk away having bought allsorts lol.
I will keep researching all your roses when I have a bit more time.
Ta for the links too.
Thankyou, thankyou!

Hi, yes Mutabilis handles heavy frosts (& snow).
Grows very easily from cuttings, too ;o)

A standard of Burgundy iceberg with lavender uinderplanted would be lovely ! As a child i always thought standard roses were for old people. lol. now I love them for underplanting and height. yes Rhapsody in Blue is an interesting colour as well as love the name !
I had planted a similar colour theme as yourself in a courtyard garden. add plenty of sweetpeas too :)

I'm not a particular fan of iceberg roses,I prefer Margaret Merrill, but the burgundy Iceberg could be an exception, lovely colour.

Same but the burgundy is stunning

Hi Samanya, thats great news, I really, really wanted some mutabilis here so thats great it will handle our climate!
I am almost sold on the burundy icebergs, only one more question. what size would you estimate the top to be on them, I'm not sure if they would need to be planted away from the window a bit, I dont want to totally elliminate all of the view of the rest of the garden. I wanted to put lavender around the edges, I mite propagte some of the grosso I have, love the sweet pea idea, they are beautiful, I had planned on buying some lovely scented ones, jbsouthland - when do you sow yours, I'm thinking it would be best in spring with our cold, am I right in thinking that?
I see there are a few rose specialist's in the SI, would you say they are all equall in quality? and would you trust to order by phone/internet without seeing the plant first? Do you find they are slightly cheaper than say the garden centres?
I am also on the lookout for some more clemitis too, they are one of my favourites :) I can see this garden is going to cost me a small fortune lol but I cant wait to enjoy it, it's so exciting. Next spring I have another project, the BBQ area, I am building it out of schist stone and going to have all my favourites in that garden too lol.
OMG have you seen the double grafted burgundy and white iceberg on google images - stunning.
I do have to laugh, I've never been a 'pink' person until now, it just suits our cottage and garden so well but I do need my purpley colours, they are my fav.
Thanks again for your advice, it very much apprecieted :)

My Mutabilis are all cutting grown & they do get quite large but you can keep them lower if you wish . as for the burgundy Iceberg, I haven't got that (yet) but have seen it in garden centres & love the colour.
I'm pretty sure that any Rose specialist will have quality plants, they can't afford not to as word gets around if they sell cra**y roses & probably source their stock from the same places.
I seldom get a new garden absolutely right the first time & often shift plants around in winter.
Good luck, it's exciting, isn't it & try not to start tallying up the cost of what will be a lovely creation!

My best recommendation for roses is Tasman Bay Roses. ALWAYS top quality and a fantastic range. Lovely, lovely people with a wealth or rose knowledge. Roses will come bare rooted, in June, if you are lucky enough to be able to get an order confirmed. So, you will need to have your beds all prepared or otherwise be forced to pot up your roses till you are ready. Not the best idea, if you can help it.
All the iceberg standards get quite big if fed properly. They are budded onto 900mm standards and sometimes can get at least 500mm heads on them so you would be looking at 1.4m in front of your window. Personally, I wouldn't do it - put them either side of a window if you have the space, but not in front. You could use just bush versions under the window if you have to. But - I would warn here of the necessity to "lift" a garden of predominantly one colour range. You will need hints of white or cream or even the palest primrose yellow to really make your garden come alive - so do think about your Margaret Merrill roses or your mignonette - it will make a difference. I would also suggest that you include some strong blues - I know you said delphiniums - but use centaurea montana and nigella amongst the plantings as well. For clematis, you could try NZ clematis Nurseries in CHC or alternatively, Yaku Nursery in Waitara, New Plymouth.

. And always ladies mantle . drifts and drifts of it. !
I sow sweetpeas now and let them sit up over winter ( soak overnight before planting ) . then sow some more in spring ( such lovely fragrant ones and beautiful shades ) this way you get flowers early and forever !
My standard roses are ok in front of windows but if low yes it would be an issue. do you grow Monkshood for winter blues and Goats Rue for tall white ? there are beautiful deep pink clematis . and I love the native evergreen for cover on fences. the white flowers of course a bonus :)
A handy thought . many years ago now while on a very stretched budget I saved and proudly ordered 5 std Mary Roses. chuffed I was but they arrived bare rooted just when Invers was in the midst of a huge icy frost that went on for a week or more. to find and purchase un frozen potting mix was a challenge ( the red shed saved the day . had theirs undercover ). now ordering bare rooted plants I would make sure I have the sized pots and mix ready . just in case :)
Your garden sounds lovely and planned with ?