Still not been told what the appliance plate says in terms of watts and rational discussion is therefore pointless. To the OP - can you post a piccie of the plate on the rear that shows the appliances details?
vivac,
Jul 21, 4:28am
25A circuit breaker is not the correct size breaker for 2.5mm.
comsolve,
Jul 21, 6:12am
When I did my cabling I used 20A for power and 10A for lighting.
vivac,
Jul 21, 11:28pm
That could be correct or could be very dangerous, circuit protection is all about cable sizes.
comsolve,
Jul 21, 11:37pm
Power 2.5mm / Lighting 1mm
Pretty standard cabling for the last few decades.
vivac,
Jul 22, 3:06am
Then why did you state this? typo?
comsolve,
Jul 22, 5:45am
My recollection was 25A.
It should also be noted this issue has been discussed in pro-forums and it's evident some sparkies think 25A for 2.5 and 16 or even 20A for 1.5
mrfxit,
Jul 22, 7:37am
To future protect the cooking appliances location, it would be idealy best to simply wire the connection for a std electric stove, ie: 30a & be done with it. Who's to say that in 5 years time either the current owners or a new owner may want to install a std complete electric stove & get suckered by the new wiring etc that may not cope with the extra load or be legal.
pauldw,
Jul 22, 7:59am
At the moment nobody knows what wiring is there already. It could be an older 30A fixed stove connection converted to a 10A socket for an older gas hob/electric oven. A current Bosch gas/electric has a 3200W oven section so would need a 15A plug.
mrfxit,
Jul 22, 6:01pm
Yep thats the point, regardless of whats there already, it's best to treat it as needing heavy wiring rather then presume light or heavy gauge. If it's light gauge, then the quote for installing a heavy gauge system will be spot on. If it's already heavy gauge, then the work will be a lot cheaper. Quote for a full replacement job & work downwards from there upon inspection.
gabbysnana,
Jul 22, 8:15pm
So guys, im replacing my stove, that has this huge big power cable poking out of the wall, with a electric hob and new small underbench oven. The fuse at the box is 32amps. Can I run the two off this one cable or is another cable required. In my case I am pulling all the gib off the kitchen walls as part of the reno for the sparky and the plumber to have unencumbered open slather.
kwaka5,
Jul 22, 8:50pm
Best thing is don’t ask on here. Talk to your sparky and ask them. Ask for an explaination if required. Way too many think they know the rules people’s in here. The ones that are trying to give the correct information are getting yelled down by said know it alls. Sparky will give you the correct solution as long as you have done your homework and got a reputable company to do your work.
johotech,
Jul 22, 10:24pm
As long as it is TPS cable, it can probably be re-used and you can connect both the cooktop and oven to the same cable. As long as you're not going for a high powered induction cooktop.
If it actually has a "fuse", that should be replaced with a circuit breaker. The electrician will also check the switch and its location, because in the old days some were in a position which isn't compliant anymore.
You'll probably need an electrician for other work with the renovation anyway, so just check with them.
kwaka5,
Jul 22, 10:33pm
This one is one of the ones that knows what he is talking about by the way.
vivac,
Jul 23, 1:27am
OK. Your recollection is wrong, its 20A. You theoretically could only protect a 2.5mm cable with 25a circuit protection if it was very short (9m max iirc) and clipped direct with no part of it being enclosed at all, away from all other cables. Any and every actual sparky should know 2.5mm is 20A max circuit protection in real world situations.
gabbysnana,
Jul 23, 1:50am
absolutey electricians territory, was just curious.
johotech,
Jul 23, 3:26am
Of course. I don't mind providing basic information if I can. But as with anything, there could be 10 different details that you have to take into consideration when you're actually there to do the work.
delshamic,
Jul 24, 1:01am
boy no wonder we get bad wiring when pros are arguing about all sorts
johotech,
Jul 24, 3:20am
Comsolve and half the others commenting aren't electricians.
fxx99,
Jul 29, 12:19am
If it helps, this was the only info on the back of the oven.
As I said in #23 - An electrician required for a gas/electric appliance. A 15A socket outlet can probably be used.
fxx99,
Jul 29, 12:36am
Can I use a 10amp plug ?
Also would a gasfitter be able to do the wiring if needed considering they probably encounter this situation frequently ?
mrfxit,
Jul 29, 1:12am
10A would only be for dedicated Gas stove top/gas oven combo & even then it's only used for an oven light & the gas lighter.
Who does what depends on what certifications they hold. If the fitter commonly does this type of job, then theres a good chance they have both gas & power certs
johotech,
Oct 15, 4:51am
The oven uses more than 10A so it can't go on a 10A plug. Doesn't it already have a 15A plug on it?
Even if a gasfitter (plumber) had an associated tradesperson electrical license, they are only allowed to disconnect or reconnect existing appliances. You are installing a new appliance, or changing part of the installation wiring to a 15A socket.
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