10 amps to 15 amps

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fxx99, Jul 18, 4:48pm
How hard is it to change a 10 amp socket to a 15 amp socket to run an oven ? Will it require running a new cable from the switchboard over to the new socket or does it require only a new socket that runs off the existing cable already there with the 10 amp socket ?
Thanks

vivac, Jul 18, 5:00pm
Depends very much on the existing cabling size.
If its a straight swap they are virtually identical behind if replacing with the same brand gear.

mrfxit, Jul 18, 6:06pm
As for guess work on if it will be ok, largely depends if it's an old house & if it's ever been rewired & if it's in the same location as the current stove.

As for knowing for certain & being safe about it . .
>Only an electrical inspection can tell that<

tegretol, Jul 19, 5:40am
15A @ 230v = 3450Watts.

Is it a camping oven with no hotplates?

Your average oven has a 2000w element plus 4 x 1000w hotplates, ie 6000w, ie 26A.

trade4us2, Jul 19, 8:14am
My oven uses under 1000watts.
A self-cleaning oven uses a lot more, certainly more than 10 amps.
A hob also may use more than 10 amps.

tweake, Jul 19, 9:14am
just had a look, my stove has a 32 amp fuse.
i would say your not going to use normal outlet cable on it or 15 amp outlets.
the last plugs i dealt with for stoves where huge. certainly not a small 15 amp plug.
plus normal power outlets are daisy chained to other outlets, which you would have to disconnect assuming that the one you wanted was the first one on the circuit,

sounds like a really bad idea. get a sparky in for a look.

fxx99, Jul 19, 9:32am
Thanks for the replies. Yes it is for an oven that has a gas hob and electric oven. Yes I will get a sparky to have a look.
cheers

comsolve, Jul 19, 10:49am
If you have 2.5mm TPS cable and a 25A breaker (ie: current wiring standard), you can just swap the outlet over from 10A to 15A.

Keep in mind if you are intending to add an outlet - The wiring standard specifies a limit for double outlets in kitchen areas to 3 per circuit.

Does your oven come with a manufacturer plug already fitted or are you retrofitting this?

axelvonduisberg, Jul 19, 1:55pm
WATT?

johotech, Jul 19, 8:18pm
You should just stick to whatever it is you're actually qualified to do instead of giving incorrect electrical advice.

comsolve, Jul 19, 8:49pm
Ah yes, the old "tradesman hit and run".

johotech, Jul 19, 8:59pm
Exactly. A tradesman who is fully licensed and insured to carry out electrical work.

You're quoting rubbish out of ECP51 which is out of date. But also missing simple stuff that is in ECP51 like only one 15A socket outlet is allowed. So if you're going to try and advise on the only standard that you know, at least try and give the correct incorrect information.

But even ECP51 doesn't tell you to use a 25A breaker on 2.5 cable. I have no idea where you pulled that gem from.

comsolve, Jul 19, 9:14pm
Weasel words because the correct size breaker is what is appropriate to protect the cabling.

ECP51 is a strawman. I didn't reference it.

johotech, Jul 19, 9:19pm
Lol. yes you did, because that's the only place that 3 outlets per circuit for a kitchen is referenced.

Please continue to argue with yourself if you wish.

comsolve, Jul 19, 9:20pm
I am also dubious about the OP's suggested use of a 15A socket because ovens are normally wired for 32A or hard wired.

I have a 10A plug on mine solely on account it is all-gas and therefore only needs the mains for fan, light and ignition.

comsolve, Jul 19, 9:26pm
I have a copy of AS/NZS 3000 and all the other regs I needed at the time. So while it is possible my memory is a bit out about that minor issue, the appropriate response would be to post a polite correction.

It's still nothing compared with the many "sins" I have seen committed by professional sparkies esp. with solar.

ryanm2, Jul 19, 9:27pm
You don’t know what you are talking about. Ovens are generally rated up to 15 amps , a lot are around 10 amp. Your not getting confused with a range are you?

comsolve, Jul 19, 9:29pm
Yes, a range.

I'm only advising the OP to be aware of what the current draw is and that their connection is appropriate.

ryanm2, Jul 19, 9:37pm
You are the master of confusion.

tegretol, Jul 19, 11:53pm
So are you talking about an over or a range here? What does the plate on the rear say in terms of power?

kevymtnz, Jul 20, 12:59am
answer is min 30A and normal wire is a no, New line and new fuse which requires an electrician

ryanm2, Jul 20, 7:01am
Another expert. It has gas hobs!

johotech, Jul 20, 7:41am
Yes you need to get an electrician.
There are very specific requirements that need to be followed for the electrical connection to a gas appliance.

mrfxit, Jul 20, 8:54am
Yes, pretty common sense for a combo gas/ electrical appliance

tfc3, Jul 20, 9:59am
You are so wrong