Purchasing a property with no ccc

michelle_smith, Feb 17, 2:35am
good evening my daughter is looking at a property that has no ccc, do you know what the procedure and costs would be involved to obtain a ccc. thanks.

mikee6, Feb 17, 2:47am
They may demand that the gib and flashings are removed before they grant compliance and she would have to do any repairs they deem necessary, speak to the local council first.

mikee6, Feb 17, 2:50am

michelle_smith, Feb 17, 2:55am
thanks mikee6 quite a lot involved reading the council information, do you think it would be an idea to have a reputable builder look over the place to see if things are generally in order?

atlantis3, Feb 17, 3:13am
Our garage didn't have compliance and it is a big hassle if you don't have the original documentation proving that the work was signed off.
The council should hold records for the permitted work of site visits by the building inspectors.
Is it the whole house or an alteration that that doesn't have compliance.
Why can't the vendor do this? If it is drains or electrical how is a builder going to tell you.
We got all the information of the house from the council on a disk (about $40 from memory). I would be very wary of buying such a house.

michelle_smith, Feb 17, 3:20am
hiya Atlantis apparently from the real estate agent the people who owned the property passed away and their children just want to sell the property and moved back to the UK, but thanks yes would pay to obtain the property bag (on disk hopefully) to see if they had made an application with council for building. I will also phone the agent tomorrow to ask a few more questions. Apparently it is the whole house.

pauldw, Feb 17, 4:14am
How old is this property and how long since any changes?

michelle_smith, Feb 17, 12:11pm
built in 2000 not sure I would have to ask the council whether built from brand new or additions made.

pamellie, Feb 17, 1:15pm
The bank may not want to loan money on this type of property so you will have to check that as well. We looked at a similiar situation once but walked away in the end, too much trouble. Just make sure you do your homework well.

sooby, Feb 17, 2:06pm
Buying in Auckland with a home built around 2000 triggers leaky home alarm bells - things were done a lot worse back then! A lot of renegade fly-by-night builders & subtradies. What kind of cladding is it? Any membrane decks or roofs? A simple style house or complex with lots of cladding junctions?

Even with a CCC a building inspection by a decent builder would be money well spent in my opinion, and not just this situation, always!

kenw1, Feb 17, 2:16pm
As sooby stated, the cladding could well be the make or break.

A quick visit to the council office and a look at the property file, if there is one, would get you on the road.

michelle_smith, Feb 17, 10:00pm
thanks for your input I will take these things into consideration with my daughter, the property is made of brick and wood.

ricp, Feb 17, 10:01pm
I'd be wary of any home built between '94 and '04 even with CCC, a house built without it in the middle of the leaky home crisis I wouldn't touch with a barge pole unless I personally knew it's history.

jkp58, Feb 18, 12:32am
if the current owners are not prepared to get one'JUst make sure you have $200,000 spare just in case.

oh_hunnihunni, Feb 18, 1:58am
Wouldn't an engineering report also be required? More $$$$$$ if our similar experience is any similarity.

Perhaps an offer that includes deductions for costs associated with obtaining retrospective permits.

books4nz, Feb 18, 9:22am
I'd be very wary of purchasing a property without a CCC - with probable resulting problems with getting insurance and any bank loan if needed. Maybe ask the vendors to sort a CCC with the council to ensure the building is compliant before settlement.
And if she does proceed with the purchase, get the CCC sorted so if/when she sells, all the paperwork is done.

kenw1, Feb 18, 1:50pm
In all reality, no ccc leans towards making the structure worthless, look at land value plus a bit.

twain1, Feb 18, 6:40pm
I wouldnt go so far as no CCC meaning a worthless property. I live in an area where no-one has a fully legal building, all work has been done 40-50 years ago though so you have some idea of the quality of the workmanship and building materials.
You could make getting a CCC a condition of purchase on the sellers part, I would definitely be wanting a builder and a lawyer to be checking out their various parts before purchasing and listening to what they have to say.
Wouldnt even contemplate buying without a builders report.
Are all the plans etc there and available for your perusal?

kenw1, Feb 18, 7:55pm
The problem is that this is not an old house, think OP said around 2000.

We looked at one that age, no ccc, turned out it would never get a ccc the cladding was not up to spec. Even contacted the makers of the cladding, they were helpful, but now way could that house have achieved ccc without a complete reclad, big dollars.

Dont use a builder, use a firm that has some insurance cover in case it does goes belly up and they have incorrectly reported.

majoba, Feb 19, 1:42am
What an absolute pleasure to read a thread where every contributor knows it is a CCC. That 'My First Home' TV programme (blerk) had that idiot frontman/ host, whatever he is, refer to a "code of compliance" and then to my horror yesterday I saw a valuation from QV, for goodness sake, which referred to the same.

210sback, Jun 6, 6:36am
calm down it's commonly referred to as "code of compliance" as abbreviation for code compliance certificate.like a thousand other abbreviations in nz.dont panic about it.