Normally super reliable but this morning it won't start filling when the Start/Pause button is pushed. As per the F&P help page I've checked both taps are on and the filters are clear. Same thing happened Dec 5th but it did eventually start after a lot of head scratching, pushing buttons and muttering oaths and has done 6 faultless washes since so I figure it can't be a wire fallen off or component death. Any useful suggestions welcomed. I seem to recall there is a self analysis thing that can be done but can't recall what or how it works ?
pamow69,
Dec 30, 9:21pm
No there is no self analysis mode only a diagnostic mode which you can test certain things like the drain pump or water valves or recall the last error code. Don't think that will help you here. Do the following. Power on & set up panel ready to do a wash. Press start button. Is there a single beep & the light on the top row stops flashing? If no beep & light keeps flashing then the start button is faulty. Let me know the result & I will tell you the next step to do.
solarboy,
Dec 30, 9:39pm
Hi pamow69. Yes, single beep and the top row light stops flashing and stays lit.
kam04,
Dec 31, 7:31am
Unplug the machine. Short out the two metal angle pins on the plug top (on the end of the cord) with a metal object eg screwdriver. This usually unscrambles the 'brain' on the control board. Not saying this is the problem but it might work.
solarboy,
Dec 31, 9:14am
Tried that, thanks for the suggestion but didn't work this time :-)
solarboy,
Dec 31, 11:56am
OK, I've been Googling and u-tubing which made me suspect the lid switch - pretty sure the machine normally won't start filling till the lid's down. On lifting the control panel I found a plug with 4 wires on the right hand side. I unplugged it and read a S/C across the white and yellow wires (out-of-balance switch?) and a dis/open circuit across the thinner black and blue pair going to the lid switch at the RH front corner. Unsure how this switch ( thin, black sealed plastic thing ) works but I'm picking magnetism as there's a 'something' moulded into the lid above it ie piece of iron or a magnet ? Anyway, I'm thinking faulty lid switch, no ?
kam04,
Dec 31, 1:40pm
Have you got an appliance serviceman close by?
pamow69,
Dec 31, 2:06pm
Hi Solarboy It sounds like the lid switch. To check do the following: Power on at wall. Press & hold the water Temperature down button & press power on button. Let both buttons go and then press the spin speed up button until the medium spin light is on (other spin lights off) At this point check the lights along the top row. The 2nd from left is the lid switch and should be off. If you open & close the lid it will come on & go off to tell you the switch is working normal. If it stays on the switch is faulty & machine will not start. It is a reed switch operated by the magnet in the lid. Do not cut the wires with power on. It has 230 Volts feeding it.
solarboy,
Dec 31, 3:12pm
Yep, right here on the TMe message board.
solarboy,
Dec 31, 3:36pm
Hi again pamow69. You're right. After reading a dis. on my meter when looking from the plug towards the lid switch I cut ( yep, power was off :-) the black and blue pair and put a chocolate block connector on close to the console and linked the two, bypassing the switch. All go, washing finally done. Those light codes are certainly useful, once you know how they work - I was lucky this time that it was a simple switch fault, ie easy to pin down as an intermittant ( to begin with ) fault. An Aussie guy on another site had the same fault and his F & P parts place was asking $50 for a reed switch - he went to a hobby type store, possibly Jaycar which is where I'll be going tomorrow. Thanks very much for your help, i see you often doing the same and it's great that you willingly help. I e-mailed F & P and got 3 e-mails back, saying that I'd described the fault well but unfortunately it was hard for them to diagnose without having a serviceman on the spot - read, we don't give free advice - so again, thanks for being keen to help for the sake of it rather than for $$$$.
maclad,
Dec 31, 3:43pm
pamow69 is a great guy so willing to pass on his experience and help others and it seems he usually manages to sort things online. Pity there are not more out there like him. Happy New Year pamow69
maclad,
Dec 31, 4:26pm
Wide range of talents then I guess. I wish
solarboy,
Dec 31, 4:43pm
That mention was for a washing machine as well but he'd likely be a whizz on electric cars eh ?
pamow69,
Dec 31, 9:32pm
Happy New Year to you too maclad.
pamow69,
Dec 31, 9:38pm
Yep that is F&P for you. Of course they can diagnose that fault for you but there would be no $$$ in it for them. Yes also to buying a reed switch & rejoin the wires. No particular wiring to stick too just pick a wire join it and then join the other. Just make sure the join is well insulated. If it shorts out it will blow the main control board. Trust me, I know. :)
solarboy,
Jun 24, 11:55pm
Yes, I've heard the control board can be a problem so I was rapt that it was just the reed switch in my machine. The join's close to the board end so well out of the way - thanks again, Happy New Year ! :-)
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