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alien4, Nov 25, 2:35pm
how do you get rid of them, A empty house has a nest in porch ceiling, another lot swarmed in today so now two, I doing the gardening there the owner not wanting to get pro's in to remove, do wasp traps do the same thing to bees, what is the best bait to use. thanks

smallwoods, Nov 25, 2:38pm
Lay out in the sun and cover yourself in honey, the bees will leave the house pretty quickly.

maclad, Nov 25, 2:56pm
If you can find someone local who owns hives they will come and remove them free and will be grateful for them. Bees are expensive to buy. We get rid of all our swarms at work by getting a local beekeeper in and he is so happy to get the bees. What ever you do, do not kill them, bees are at risk because of Varroa mites and need to be saved.

maclad, Nov 25, 3:00pm
Just searched Google and found this. "Bee swarm collection" a hive is no different to a collector. The Hastings contact is Deanna Corbett 06 876 8852 or 027 244 1715. Hope they save the bees.

tweake, Nov 25, 4:45pm
ask on http://www.nzbees.net/forums/
there maybe a hobbyist who can help.

the other way is fly spray and kill them. you would also need to seal it up otherwise a new swarm of bees will take up residence.

maclad, Nov 25, 4:58pm
Why would anybody want to kill them, they are not a danger and most certainly do nobody any harm. Do you enjoy honey.

tweake, Nov 25, 5:37pm
its not about wanting to kill them, its a case of its not always practical to remove them. unless they are removed and looked after they will die anyway and spread varroa and disease to the other hives in the area.

maclad, Nov 25, 5:46pm
So why not let an apiarist take a well informed look and make that decision.

groovie1, Nov 25, 5:59pm
Gasp! Kill them? At least try saving them first.

wembley1, Nov 25, 6:14pm
It's not just honey. Do you enjoy:
Alfalfa (dairy & meat)
Apple
Apricot
Blackberry
Blueberry
Cherry
Clovers (dairy & meat)
Cranberry
Cucumber
Muskmelon, cantaloupe
Nectarine
Peach
Pear
Persimmon, native
Plum, prune
Pumpkin
Raspberry
Squash
Sunflower
Trefoil
Watermelon

All the above crops rely on honey-bees for pollination. Without honey-bees the world would be in dire straits.

groovie1, Nov 25, 6:40pm
Exactly!

les6, Nov 25, 6:58pm
there has been an ad in the hawkesbay paper of late that says they want to buy swarms?

wasgonna, Nov 25, 7:00pm
Councils will also have beekeeper contact details.

tweake, Nov 25, 7:37pm
which is exactly why i mentioned to go to the beekeeping forum and ask there so a beekeeper can go look to see if they can be recovered.

captaingraham, Nov 26, 5:34am
You could overwhelm them with apostrophes.

alien4, Nov 26, 3:57pm
Thanks everyone, yes have phoned the person in the hastings paper will not remove being in a house. We have tried beekeeper with no luck, these bees are a tricky lot, not wanting to kill them but this empty place will go up for rent in near future
, who would move in with bees. Also the amount of damage that has been done by them needs work asap before it gets worse.

tweake, Nov 26, 4:06pm
bees won't damage a house but can create some fire risk.
wasps however will do a little bit of damage.

just make sure they are bees and not wasps. seen plenty of people mistake wasps for bees.

maclad, Dec 1, 2:44pm
As above, I cannot see bees doing damage so perhaps they are wasps

alien4, Dec 1, 5:56pm
they are bees,, the damage is the hive pushing through the ceiling can see parts of the hive clear as day,

tweake, Dec 1, 6:21pm
sounds like its been there for a while. if ceiling is already damaged then no harm in cutting it out and pulling the comb and hive out.

gogojimny, Dec 2, 5:07pm
Hi, we got the same bee issue in our house. A beekeeper came over and said could not be removed because the nest is hidden under the roof.
He suggested to use gasoline to spray the bees hate that smell, so will drive them away.

tweake, Dec 2, 8:10pm
i would not be putting petrol into your house. that could ruin things.
it also would kill the bees. we often pour petrol in wasp nests and the fumes kills the wasps.

beekeepers actually have a bee repellent, i think ones called "bee quick" which is used to drive bees out of honey supers. you can use that to drive the bulk of the bees out. but it would depend a lot on the situation i doubt it would work in a ceiling where there is loads of room.

gabbysnana, Dec 6, 6:09pm
Weird, you would think the bee keepers would work with you to recover the bees, if its your own home roofing iron etc could be removed etc, especially if you are going to have to do repairs anyway, rather than put it in the too hard basket.

paora-tm, Dec 6, 6:45pm
oh haha, just clicked.

tweake, Dec 6, 7:52pm
its not hard to breed bees. there is a point where its costing the beekeeper to go help someone out.
there is a few that actually charge $$$ to go collect/deal with swarms.
then theres getting permission from owner to go damage the house etc.