If this was installed would it make a difference?

bettylee, Feb 27, 7:32am
at my place - hate the new toilet , back to wall rubbish i bought from mitre10 it's useless in an old villa - should've kept the old one it had a good strong (probably not the most water efficient) flush! i'm wondering if i have this one installed - do you think it would do the same job as the old on i had .

http://salefinder.co.nz/4597/home-improvement/kitchen-and-bathroom/victorian-toilet-suite/424696/

trade4us2, Feb 27, 8:57am
If you are talking about those low cisterns that sit behind the toilet pan, I've seen three that just don't flush properly, so have been raised. That seems to fix the problem.

impressions, Feb 27, 9:02am
Looks lovely, go for it.

pauldw, Feb 27, 9:15am
Looks don't necessarily count for much. If you want advice from plumbers like Aredwood I'd use a more obvious thread title.

carter19, Feb 27, 11:53am
This company offers no technical assistance with their products. Looks are not everything. Much better to go to a plumbing place, Mico's, Plumbing World, Chesters and get a reputable product. The one in the picture is not cheap and I think you will be disappointed. If you are getting a poor result from your existing toilet, have you rung the manufacturer or Mitre 10 to discuss it. It could be the installation rather than the product that is at fault

bettylee, Feb 27, 8:52pm
how it looks is the last thing on my mind , i don't actually like how it looks (the victorian one from early settler), but it's like the old one we originally had which flushed properly - i had a plumber look at it , but he could not guarente that if he installed a new one that it would do the job. he fiddled with the bit in the tank that would allow more water to fill, but that didn't help at all - said i had to cut outside pipes to have toilet work properly - and quoted around 400-500bucks to replace the outside copper pipes with plastic ones! i said i would rather replace the mitre10 toilet than mess with the pipes - but there was no guarente even that would solve the problem - so i'm in search of a 9 ltr flusher- i really hate this n new toilet which in fact uses two/three tanks to completely flush regardless of contents - tested with just a sheet of tissue nothing else - it8ltrs - two full flushes to to get that down ! hopeless

budgel, Feb 28, 7:24am
If the plumber said the outside pipes would have to be changed to make it flush properly it would seem thatthe problem lies there!

bettylee, Mar 5, 4:38am
there's room for a second opinion or two. bit like doctors.

pauldw, Mar 5, 6:19am
What pipes were these! If the old toilet flushed properly it's hard to imagine that there's anything wrong with the pipes.

bettylee, Mar 11, 11:45pm
the pipes outside the house - so apparently they are not copper , but clay! that's what my cousin reckons, he's now trying to get his trade mate drainer to come have a look at my drains - the other plumber said that the pipes weren't wide enough to supply water for the new toilet, however being a new model back to the wall rubbish , it only fills up to what the toilet is suppose to fill up with , which is 4ltrs I think - so I've had a few opinions which has just left me confused. my cousin whose advise I'll take with a grain of salt, agrees that it's the pipes outside supplying water for the toilet, but still doesn't convince me as the old toilet flushed royally!

carter19, Mar 12, 7:22am
Is the cistern actually filling up to the top. If so, then this is the maximum amount of water with each flush. If thats not enough, then you may be using too much toilet paper. The filling of the cistern may be slow but the amount of water available for each flush is controlled by what will fit in the cistern

accroul, Mar 12, 7:35am
Clay pipes supplying water! never heard that one - Clay pipes are sewage/waste water to my knowledge! Water into the house (depending on age) should be copper/ PVC/uPVC or even polyethelene.
No idea about the toilet though sorry although. after flushing, does the bowl empty at a reasonable speed or does the water level rise close to the top of the bowl then go down slowly! if it does rise, your sewage system is a bit bunged up.

cowlover, Mar 15, 7:14pm
Your "back to the wall rubbish" as you so eloquently put it, is it a complete set of pan and cistern or did you just replace the cistern!

If the cistern is full and the toilet will not flush away the simple answer is that you have a faulty pan.The fact it wont flush a sheet of tissue tells me that the water flow within the pan is not creating the correct vortex to gather up the solids and carry them away with the water.Go back to Mitre 10 and tell them its faulty and you want it fixed which will probably only be possibleby fitting a complete new unit.

crackerjack19, Apr 20, 5:19am
I agree with cowlover if the cistern fills to the level require and the toilet out let is correctly connected to the soil pipes (sewer pipes) and the previous toilet worked OK !. Then the inability of the toilet to flush away what is in the bowl is almost certainly a fault with the pan. Modern toilets are designed to flush with a minimum of water delivered swiftly, where as the older toilets more water more slowly. The Syphon toilets relied on the speed (drop) of the water to do the job.